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Post by monkeynin on May 29, 2009 14:10:31 GMT -5
Okay, so one day savant suggested that all the possibilities of element combo's should be eliminated. Instead, he limited the combo's so that anyone who combines the elements for new kickass jutsu, will still be an average joe. It was accepted on the spot. Originally, we had a long list of combinations so that there is a wide variation. I encourage this because it promotes diversity among the shinobi on GSW as well as Naruto. I.E. crystal element user guren just enters the chapter and starts being all badass and stuff. So what do you think? Do want a site full of average joes, or more amazing 'guren' shinobi?
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Post by Noname on May 29, 2009 18:43:04 GMT -5
umm... i want combo elements!
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Post by Ryuujin no Yagami on May 29, 2009 19:15:46 GMT -5
The combinations are way better!
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Post by tigermaximilla on May 29, 2009 21:05:19 GMT -5
I would agree...Seltor has shorten out the use of elements combinations. However, I would take out some of the old ones...like Water + Water....other than that...
I want more element combinations.
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Post by monkeynin on May 29, 2009 21:11:58 GMT -5
Well, complete masters of Suiton can take things a step further to manipulate things other than water. This includes Acids, Oils, Liquid Nitrogen, explosive fluid.....
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Post by Daisuke Moritoshi on May 29, 2009 21:15:47 GMT -5
woo explosives and acid! i loikes!!
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Post by bashiku on May 30, 2009 4:36:05 GMT -5
We already have too much rules. You guys are allowed to make your own fighting style using acid, clay, bombs or whatever, but making more elements will just get greater and greater drift between users and would be harder and harder to track.
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Post by Lunaris on May 30, 2009 5:21:57 GMT -5
*Ahem*
Right, my opinion on this matter is thus. Firstly , elemental combinations SHOULD be allowed. However, just having the two elements required should not grant you this elemental combination. There should be some form of training, like that of the jounin exercise to gain a second element, that allows the jounin to obtain the combination. Perhaps training with an NPC master who would be controlled by a mod and also restrictions like must have 600TP or something.
Secondly, mokuton (Water + Earth) and hyouton (wind + water) should not be allowed because there are already kekkai genkai that allow this. If a genin desires to start off with either of the above three kekkai genkai I believe one of their elements should be one of the elements required so for mokuton either earth or water and when they reach jounin they should have to learn the other. Unless, of course we consider mokuton and hyouton as no longer being elemental combinations and create new ones in their place.
Sand does not count as an elemental combination because one of the members had earth and water elements whereas sand would most likely be an earth and wind combination.
Thirdly, same element combinations such as wind and wind should not be allowed because a ninja should not be able to have two of the same chakra elements and also it does not allow for diversity. Therefore the following elemental combinations are the only ones that should be considered.
1. Fire + Earth 2. Fire + Water 3. Fire + Lightning 4. Fire + Wind 5. Wind + Lightning 6. Earth + Lightning 7. Water + Lightning
The following 3 are possible combinations should we consider sand, mokuton and hyouton no longer as elemental combinations and purely as kekkai genkai traits.
1. Wind + Water 2. Earth + Water 3. Earth + Wind
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Post by Ryuujin no Yagami on May 30, 2009 7:49:39 GMT -5
I'm fine with that!
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Post by monkeynin on May 30, 2009 14:26:04 GMT -5
Jounin exams is where ninja get the ability to have a second element.
I think admins should decide whether some elements should be kekkei genkai only.
i disagree. Combos such as water and water create extreme diversity. Some may want to manipulate oils for a destructive flammable combo. Fire and Fire, which is either combustion or explosion, we have living proof of a person who can manipulate that combo.
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Post by Lunaris on May 30, 2009 15:22:39 GMT -5
True, but it doesn't seem like an elemental combination. It is just advancement of the element.
Jounin exams allows for two elements I believe a specialised training (S rank possibly) should be created for learning elemental combinations such as maton (Magma) Fire + Earth. I believe this would work like this:
1. User starts training to learn combo element for example I will use Maton (magma) 2. The user does the training, which is modded by a mod so they give certain tasks. 3. When training is complete your two element (fire and earth) would be replaced by Maton. This would allow for learning of fire, earth and magma jutsu.
If you want things like advancing fire to combustion then there should be a training to learn this as well. I think this would work like this:
1. User starts training to learn advanced version of element I will use the example of fire. 2. The user does the training, which is modded by a mod so they give certain tasks. 3. When training is complete fire would be replaced in your bingo book by combustion. This will allow you to use all normal fire jutsu as well as advanced fire (Combustion) Jutsu.
P.S I don't see how oil would be water and water. It is a liquid yes, but its not water. Afterall how does mastery of water make the liquid flammable? I would say it is fire and water because the liquid becomes flammable. So the combination of fire + water would allow for steam and oil manipulation possibly.
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Post by monkeynin on May 30, 2009 21:53:03 GMT -5
No, we wont have genin running around with 2 elements just because they went through the training.
We already have something like that. Its called the jounin exams. It has several requirements that should be rewarded with second element.
PS: Put fire and water together to make a different liquid and put any kind of logic to it. Then you can come and question water + water
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Post by Noname on May 30, 2009 22:02:34 GMT -5
fire + water = steam?
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Post by Ryuujin no Yagami on May 30, 2009 22:24:02 GMT -5
Technically, yes.... Just what can you do with steam?
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Post by Noname on May 30, 2009 22:37:23 GMT -5
i'm sure theres something
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